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norriski Posted - Sep 09 2006 : 12:50:22 PM
OK all I did this last year, so I'll do it again this year... just to look at things and how stuff would add up if the chase wasn't a factor... And I'm starting early for this one... (I'll update after the race) - Sorry for the format hopefully you can figure it out... I'm just copying out of excel and it loses the nice clean lines...

Points Going into RIR
Pos. Driver Points behind 1st
1 Kenseth 3638
2 Johnson 3629 -9
3 Harvick 3296 -342
4 Gordon 3251 -387
5 Busch 3244 -394
6 JR 3226 -412
7 Hamlin 3225 -413
8 Stewart 3194 -444
9 Martin 3181 -457
10 Burton 3179 -459
11 Kahne 3149 -489
12 Edwards 2953 -685
13 Biffle 2889 -749
14 Ku Busch 2746 -892
15 Mears 2685 -953
16 Newman 2650 -988
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norriski Posted - Nov 30 2006 : 4:53:07 PM
Ah shoot.... I totally forgot, I'll finish it off this weekend...
LFB Posted - Nov 30 2006 : 09:40:41 AM
Yeah, this was JJ’s year... I’m probably one of the few on this forum that like the way they do business on the 48 team, and they really got their act together... crew chiefs are supposed to bend the rules (indeed break `em if they can get away with it), what they’re not supposed to do is get caught; cuz it drags down the whole effort... so they came back from that and essentially made Helton and the boys eat it... good for them... one of the few non-homogenized, non-sterilized teams left in the sport (at least of the potential front-runners...).

Would I have liked the 20-car in there... sure... is it Daytona yet...


sgx4ts20 Posted - Nov 30 2006 : 01:20:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kevin

you gonna update the points for post homestead??? curious who actually won the championship
or did I overlook that post??? Thanks Karen, if I overlooked it send me a link


From Jayski...

"Classic" 2006 Points Standings...the old way, not the Chase after Homestead:
1) #48-Jimmie Johnson 5158
2) #17-Matt Kenseth, 5154, -4
3) #29-Kevin Harvick, 4838, -320
4) #20-Tony Stewart, 4727, -431
5) #11-Denny Hamlin, 4725, -433
6) #8-Dale Earnhardt Jr., 4641, -517
7) #24-Jeff Gordon, 4567, -591
8) #31-Jeff Burton, 4535, -623
9) #9-Kasey Kahne, 4497, -661
10) #6-Mark Martin, 4484, -674
11) #99-Carl Edwards, 4428, -730
12) #5-Kyle Busch, 4416, -742
13) #16-Greg Biffle, 4075, -1083
(11-19-2006)
--------------

Unfortunately...no matter how you slice it....Johnson won the championship!!!!!

Oh,well....Bring on Daytona!!!

Goooooooo Tony!!!!

kevin Posted - Nov 29 2006 : 10:26:04 PM
you gonna update the points for post homestead??? curious who actually won the championship
or did I overlook that post??? Thanks Karen, if I overlooked it send me a link
norriski Posted - Nov 19 2006 : 4:57:52 PM
Thanks Larry...
LFB Posted - Nov 19 2006 : 1:46:36 PM
Congrats on your eval, Karen... thanks for the numbers...

From what I'm seeing on Speed this morning I'm not holding my breath on changes... at least not ones that make sense (to me...). But they did say it was only 92 days until Daytona...
norriski Posted - Nov 18 2006 : 9:04:21 PM
OK Yes... I'M SORRY! I'm finally getting to updating the from last week the day before then last race... sorry, I had a crazy week... (oh and my Eval. went very, very well )... so here's the numbers going into Sunday's finial race at Homestead...
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After TMS going into Homestead OLO SYSTEM

1 / Johnson / 5015
2 / Kenseth / 5004 /-11
3 / Harvick / 4683 /-332
4 / Stewart / 4609 /-406
5 / Hamlin / 4560 /-455
6 / JR / 4530 /-485
7 / Gordon / 4476 /-539
8 / Burton / 4414 /-601
9 / Martin / 4375 /-640
10 / Busch / 4362 /-653
11 / Kahne / 4327 /-688
12 / Edwards / 4286 /-729
13 / Biffle / 3890 /-1125


Going into Homestead CHASE
1 / Johnson / 6332
2 / Kenseth / 6269 /-63
3 / Harvick / 6242 /-90* tie goes to Harvick based on wins
4 / Hamlin / 6242 /-90*
5 / JR / 6217 /-115
6 / Gordon / 6165 /-167
7 / Burton / 6107 /-225
8 / Martin / 6059 /-273
9 / Kahne / 6013 /-319
10 / Busch / 5973 /-359
11 / Stewart / 4609 /-1723
12 / Edwards / 4286 /-2046
13 / Biffle / 3890 /-2442


Going into Homestead Proposed 12 Driver Chase
1 / Johnson / 6332
2 / Stewart / 6306 /-26
3 / Kenseth / 6269 /-63
4 / Harvick / 6242 /-90* tie goes to Harvick based on wins
5 / Hamlin / 6242 /-90*
6 / JR / 6217 /-115
7 / Gordon / 6165 /-167
8 / Burton / 6107 /-225
9 / Martin / 6059 /-273
10 / Kahne / 6013 /-319
11 / Busch / 5973 /-359
12 / Biffle / 5846 /-486



If you look at it now Johnson would lead the standing under whatever system was being used... Like it or not JJ is going to be the champion unless something he blows up, wrecks or some other oddity happens to him Sunday...
norriski Posted - Nov 15 2006 : 2:24:01 PM
Thanks... she'll be in my room Thursday...
smokefan69 Posted - Nov 15 2006 : 09:08:40 AM
Don't sweat it Karen...and good luck with your evaluation.
norriski Posted - Nov 15 2006 : 04:39:07 AM
Hey guys... sorry I've been busy this week and haven't had the chance to update... I'll try to get it in the next couple of days... forgive me... I promise I'll at least have it done by the next race.. LOL ( hey what can I say, schools back in and I have my formal evaluation with my administrator this week)...
raider Posted - Nov 06 2006 : 12:09:56 PM
Great Stats! Thanks Karen
norriski Posted - Nov 05 2006 : 11:26:54 PM
Here's what we have after Texas....

After TMS Going into PIR OLD SYSTEM
1 / Kenseth / 4875
2 / Johnson / 4840 /-35
3 / Harvick / 4493 /-382
4 / Stewart / 4488 /-387
5 / Hamlin / 4395 /-480
6 / JR / 4392 /-483
7 / Busch / 4313 /-562
8 / Gordon / 4311 /-564
9 / Burton / 4280 /-595
10 / Martin / 4220 /-655
11 / Kahne / 4181 /-694
12 / Edwards / 4131 /-744
13 / Biffle / 3829 /-1046


After TMS Going into PIR CHASE
1 / Johnson / 6157
2 / Kenseth / 6140 /-17
3 / JR / 6079 /-78
4 / Hamlin / 6077 /-80
5 / Harvick / 6052 /-105
6 / Gordon / 6000 /-157
7 / Burton / 5973 /-184
8 / Busch / 5924 /-233
9 / Martin / 5904 /-253
10 / Kahne / 5867 /-290
11 / Stewart / 4488 /-1669
12 / Edwards / 4131 /-2026
13 / Biffle / 3829 /-2328


After TMS going into PIR proposed "12 driver Chase"
1 / Stewart / 6185
2 / Johnson / 6157 /-28
3 / Kenseth / 6140 /-45
4 / JR / 6079 /-106
5 / Hamlin / 6077 /-108
6 / Harvick / 6052 /-133
7 / Gordon / 6000 /-185
8 / Burton / 5973 /-212
9 / Busch / 5924 /-261
10 / Martin / 5904 /-281
11 / Kahne / 5867 /-318
12 / Biffle / 5785 /-400

racefancar20 Posted - Oct 30 2006 : 3:38:46 PM
I jest knew that I could find this info at TSFP, thanks for keeping up on it.

Oh, and hello to all my ol TSFP friends
norriski Posted - Oct 30 2006 : 2:12:59 PM
OK and because someone asked in either this thread or the AMS thread... here's the point accumalation since the chase started... actually Carl is 7 point ahead of Tony and Tony is ahead of everyone eles...


Points earned since NHIS

Edwards 1002
Stewart 995 -7
Kenseth 958 -44
Johnson 937 -65
Hamlin 913 -89
Burton 909 -93
JR 899 -103
Gordon 852 -150
Harvick 847 -155
Kahne 793 -209
Martin 787 -215
Biffle 732 -270
Busch 724 -278
norriski Posted - Oct 30 2006 : 2:01:03 PM
OK... this is just plain depressing... look at the last section (propsed 12 driver chase...)

After AMS Going into TMS OLD SYSTEM
1 / Kenseth / 4743
2 / Johnson / 4665 /-78
3 / Harvick / 4328 /-415
4 / Stewart / 429 /- 445
5 / Hamlin / 4261 /-482
6 / JR / 4237 /-506
7 / Burton / 4231 /-512
8 / Gordon / 4173 /-570
9 / Busch / 4148 /-595
10 / Martin / 4123 /-620
11 / Kahne / 4112 /-631
12 / Edward / 4013 /-730
13 / Biffle / 3771 /-972


After AMS Going into TMS CHASE

1 / Kenseth / 6008
2 / Johnson / 5982 /-26
3 / Hamlin / 5943 /-65
4 / JR / 5924 / -84* (tie breaker to JR more top 5's)
5 / Burton / 5924 /-84*
6 / Harvick / 5887 /-121
7 / Gordon / 5862 /-146
8 / Martin / 5807 /-201
9 / Kahne / 5798 /-210
10 / Busch / 5759 /-249
11 / Stewart / 4298 /-1710
12 / Edwards / 4013 /-1995
13 / Biffle / 3771 /-2237


After AMS going into TMS proposed "12 driver Chase"
1 / Kenseth / 6008
2 / Stewart / 5995 /-13
3 / Johnson / 5982 /-26
4 / Hamlin / 5943 /-65
5 / JR / 5924 /-84* (tie breaker to JR more top 5's)
6 / Burton / 5924 /-84*
7 / Harvick / 5887 /-121
8 / Gordon / 5862 /-146
9 / Martin / 5807 /-201
10 / Kahne / 5798 /-210
11 / Busch / 5759 /-249
12 / Biffle / 5727 /-281
lugnut Posted - Oct 30 2006 : 1:14:21 PM
no doubt! it IS great that you do this, Karen.
-Thanks!
norriski Posted - Oct 29 2006 : 8:03:39 PM
I'll update this one later tonight.... should be interesting...
KySmokeFan Posted - Oct 26 2006 : 12:05:49 PM
Yes, thanks so much! Even though it will be the worse points finish for Smoke, this is the reality.
vhost Posted - Oct 26 2006 : 12:04:02 PM
Karen, Thanks again for doing this!
norriski Posted - Oct 23 2006 : 2:52:11 PM
OK.... Here's the update... (uhmmm looking at the stats for IF there where 12 drivers in the chase one of the rumors out there it's frustrating... also looking at the old points as Tony's top 5)

After Martinsville Going into AMS OLD SYSTEM
1 / Kenseth / 4583
2 / Johnson / 4490 /-93
3 / Harvick / 4253 /-330
4 / Hamlin / 4119 /-464
5 / Stewart / 4108 /-475
6 / Burton / 4107 /-476
7 / Martin / 4068 /-515
8 / JR / 4067 /-516
9 / Busch / 4066 /-517
10 / Kahne / 4063 /-520
11 / Gordon / 4018 /-565
12 / Edwards / 3862 /-721
13 / Biffle / 3616 /-967



After Martinsville Going into AMS Current CHASE
1 / Kenseth / 5848
2 / Harvick / 5812 /-36
3 / Johnson / 5807 /-41
4 / Hamlin / 5801 /-47
5 / Burton / 5800 /-48
6 / JR / 5754 /-94
7 / Martin / 5752 /-96
8 / Kahne / 5749 /-99
9 / Gordon / 5707 /-141
10 / Busch / 5677 /-171
11 / Stewart / 4108 /-1740
12 / Edwards / 3862 /-1986
13 / Biffle / 3616 /-2232


After Martinsville going into AMS proposed "12 Driver Chase"
1 / Kenseth / 5848
2 / Harvick / 5812 /-36
3 / Johnson / 5807 /-41
4 / Stewart / 5805 /-43
5 / Hamlin / 5801 /-47
6 / Burton / 5800 /-48
7 / JR / 5754 /-94
8 / Martin / 5752 /-96
9 / Kahne / 5749 /-99
10 / Gordon / 5707 /-141
11 / Busch / 5677 /-171
12 / Biffle / 5572 /-276
norriski Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 12:55:03 AM
OK everyong sorry.. I totally forgot to update this earlier this week... sorry... here it is...

After CMS Going into Martinville OLD SYSTEM
1 / Kenseth / 4453
2 / Johnson / 4300 /-153
3 / Harvick / 4115 /-338
4 / Burton / 4070 /-383
5 / Martin / 3977 /-476
6 / JR / 3970 /-483
7 / Busch / 3957 /-496
8 / Stewart / 3948 /-505
9 / Hamlin / 3944 /-509
10 / Kahne / 3917 /-536
11 / Gordon / 3858 /-595
12 / Edwards / 3735 /-718
13 / Biffle / 3549 /-904



After CMS Going into Martinsville Current CHASE
1 / Burton / 5763
2 / Kenseth / 5718 /-45
3 / Harvick / 5674 /-89
4 / Martin / 5661 /-102
5 / JR / 5657 /-106
6 / Hamlin / 5626 /-137
7 / Johnson / 5617 /-146
8 / Kahne / 5603 /-160
9 / Busch / 5568 /-195
10 / Gordon / 5547 /-216
11 / Stewart / 3948 /-1815
12 / Edwards / 3735 /-2028
13 / Biffle / 3549 /-2214


After CMS going into Martinsville proposed "12 Driver Chase"
1 / Burton / 5763
2 / Kenseth / 5718 /-45
3 / Harvick / 5674 /-89
4 / Martin / 5661 /-106
5 / JR / 5657 /-106
6 / Stewart / 5645 /-118
7 / Hamlin / 5626 /-137
8 / Johnson / 5617 /-146
9 / Kahne / 5603 /-160
10 / Busch / 5568 /-195
11 / Gordon / 5547 /-216
12 / Biffle / 5505 /-258
LFB Posted - Oct 11 2006 : 2:09:38 PM
Thanks Karen... looks like another Hoooo...Hummm chase...

Is it Daytona yet...
norriski Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 11:02:20 PM
OK... Sorry for the delay... here's the updated points...
Winning driver for Dega... Brian Vickers not listed...

After Dega Going into CMS OLD SYSTEM

1 / Kenseth / 4327
2 / Johnson / 4125 / -202
3 / Harvick / 4006 / -321
4 / Burton / 3905 / -422
5 / Martin / 3904 / -423
6 / Hamlin / 3865 / -462
7 / Stewart / 3824 / -503
8 / JR / 3805 / -522
9 / Busch / 3802 / -525
10 / Gordon / 3762 / -565
11 / Kahne / 3727 / -600
12 / Edwards / 3588 / -739
13 / Biffle / 3497 / -830


After Dega Going into CMS Current CHASE
1 / Burton / 5598
2 / Kenseth / 5592 / -6
3 / Martin / 5588 / -10
4 / Harvick / 5565 / -33
5 / Hamlin / 5547 / -51
6 / JR / 5492 / -106
7 / Gordon / 5451 / -147
8 / Johnson / 5442 / -156
9 / Kahne / 5413 / -185 * Kasey win tie breaker based on wins
10 / Busch / 5413 / -185 *
11 / Stewart / 3824 / -1774
12 / Edwards / 3588 / -2010
13 / Biffle / 3497 / -2101


After Dega going into CMS proposed "12 driver Chase"
1 / Burton / 5598
2 / Kenseth / 5592 / -6
3 / Martin / 5588 / -10
4 / Harvick / 5565 / -33
5 / Hamlin / 5547 / -51
6 / Stewart / 5521 / -77
7 / JR / 5492 / -106
8 / Biffle / 5453 / -145
9 / Gordon / 5451 / -147
10 / Johnson / 5442 / -156
11 / Kahne / 5413 / -185 *Kasey wins tie breaker based on wins
12 / Busch / 5413 / -185 *
norriski Posted - Oct 10 2006 : 3:23:01 PM
OK... I started to update my spreadsheet last night, I'll finish when I get home and get this updated before I leave Wednesday morning...
norriski Posted - Oct 09 2006 : 02:04:41 AM
OK... I've checked the results and the two times I check it looked like they were "playing" a little with them... once they had JR and JJ finishing ahead of Denny and Tony... then now it looks like they are behind them... I have to work Monday (yes I know but I couldn't turn down the extra money for subbing) then I have a B-Day party Monday night... but I'll see if I can't get our grid updated at least before I go to bed Monday night... I just refuse to do it now and find out I have to redo it once the result become "official"..

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